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Agenda and minutes

Venue: Committee Room 4, Town Hall, Upper Street, N1 2UD

Contact: Jackie Tunstall  020 7527 3068

Items
No. Item

1.

Introductions and procedure

Minutes:

Councillor Flora Williamson welcomed everyone to the meeting and officers and members introduced themselves.  The procedure for the conduct of the meeting was outlined.

2.

Apologies for absence

Minutes:

None.

3.

Declarations of substitute members

Minutes:

There were no declarations of substitute members.

4.

Declarations of interest

If you have a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest* in an item of business:

§  if it is not yet on the council’s register, you must declare both the existence and details of it at the start of the meeting or when it becomes apparent;

§  you may choose to declare a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest that is already in the register in the interests of openness and transparency. 

In both the above cases, you must leave the room without participating in discussion of the item.

 

If you have a personal interest in an item of business and you intend to speak or vote on the item you must declare both the existence and details of it at the start of the meeting or when it becomes apparent but you may participate in the discussion and vote on the item.

 

*(a)     Employment, etc - Any employment, office, trade, profession or vocation carried on for profit or gain.

(b) Sponsorship - Any payment or other financial benefit in respect of your expenses in carrying out duties as a member, or of your election; including from a trade union.

(c) Contracts - Any current contract for goods, services or works, between you or your partner (or a body in which one of you has a beneficial interest) and the council.

(d) Land - Any beneficial interest in land which is within the council’s area.

(e) Licences- Any licence to occupy land in the council’s area for a month or longer.

(f) Corporate tenancies - Any tenancy between the council and a body in which you or your partner have a beneficial interest.

 (g) Securities - Any beneficial interest in securities of a body which has a place of business or land in the council’s area, if the total nominal value of the securities exceeds £25,000 or one hundredth of the total issued share capital of that body or of any one class of its issued share capital. 

 

This applies to all members present at the meeting.

 

Minutes:

Councillor Phil Graham declared he was a ward councillor for Bunhill ward but had not had any involvement regarding application B3 – Thackeray’s Coffee Club.

5.

Order of Business

Minutes:

The order of business would be as the agenda. The Sub-Committee noted that Item B1 had been adjourned to a future meeting.

6.

Minutes of Previous Meeting pdf icon PDF 76 KB

Minutes:

RESOLVED

That the minutes of the meeting held on the 26 March 2018 be confirmed as a correct record and the Chair be authorised to sign them.

7.

Old Queens Head, 44 Essex Road, N1 8LN - Premises licence variation pdf icon PDF 3 MB

Minutes:

The Sub-Committee noted that this application had been adjourned to a future meeting.

8.

Top's Pizza, 22 Penton Street, N1 9PS - Premises licence variation pdf icon PDF 2 MB

Minutes:

The licensing officer reported that additional papers from the applicant had been tabled.  They would be interleaved with the agenda.  He stated that if the variation regarding late night refreshment was granted, Annex 2 Condition 3 would need to be deleted.  A letter was sent from the applicant to the interested parties and no response to this letter had been received.

 

The applicant’s representative stated that there had been no change in the hours requested but they would like alcohol to be available for collection and not just delivery.  It was noted that alcohol could only be sold with a main meal.  The application was not against licensing policy.  The other amendment to the current licence would be to increase the opening hours to the public to allow customers on the premises rather than just for delivery. There would not be a significant volume of people but the premises were currently unable to serve the public after 11pm. Discussions had been held with the police and there had been no objections by the responsible authorities.  The operation had been at the premises for a year and there were 41 outlets nationally.  There was a substantial operations manual.  It was accepted that the premises fell within a cumulative impact area but there was a good operating schedule, the premises were not alcohol led and did not have vertical drinking. On sales could be removed from the application if this was a concern.  The tables would be used as a waiting area.  One of the objectors stated that they had no objection to the current hours and had complaints about the rubbish which was left.  The applicant stated that he did not believe that this rubbish had been created by this business however, he offered a condition that they would clear the rubbish 25 yards either side of the entrance. Customers on the premises would generally order and leave within 10 minutes. The applicant offered a condition that a notice be displayed requesting customers to wait inside while their order is prepared.

 

In response to questions, there was no objection to alcohol being served with a main meal.  Late night refreshment could be served off the premises if this was a concern.  The applicant agreed to a condition that alcohol always be served at the same time as food. The display fridge was behind the counter and was not on display.  Items on the menu could be refused if customers were drunk.

 

In summary, the applicant stated that the application was licensing policy compliant.

 

RESOLVED

1)     That the application for a premises licence variation, in respect of Top’s Pizza, 22 Penton Street, N1 9PS, be granted to allow:-

1)         The sale of alcohol, off supplies only, Monday to Saturday from 11 am until 11pm and on Sundays from 11 am until 10:30 pm; 

2)         The provision of late night refreshment, Mondays to Thursdays from 11pm until 1am, Fridays and Saturdays from 11pm until 2am and Sundays from 11pm until midnight;

3)         The  ...  view the full minutes text for item 8.

9.

Thackeray's Coffee Club, 14 Charterhouse Square, EC1M 6AX - New premises licence pdf icon PDF 2 MB

Minutes:

The licensing officer reported that the application was for alcohol on Saturdays and Sundays until 8.30pm and not 11.30 as published on the front sheet of the report.  Tabled papers in support of the application would be interleaved with the agenda papers.

 

The Chair of Florin Court stated that this was always intended to be a café and was in a cumulative impact area.  There were walls on all sides which amplified the noise from the premises and created a public disturbance.  He considered that the management did not have the expertise to manage a bar and customers could go to other pubs on the square.  The premises were also currently obstructing a right of way. In the evenings the noise from the premises was considerable. He stated that a number of people had objected, no attempt had been made to supervise the outside area and a licence should not be granted for entertainment.

 

In response to questions the resident stated that he had not held a formal meeting with residents but a number of people had approached him with complaints.  The licensing officer reported that temporary events notices had been granted and no complaints had been made.  The noise officer had not considered it necessary to put in a representation. The resident stated that other residents were aware that the Licensing Sub-Committee meeting was being held to consider the application.

 

The applicant stated that he had worked for nine years in Islington and when submitting the application had worked with the licensing team and had produced a robust operation schedule for a cumulative impact area.  The outside seating area would be made unusable by 8pm, there would be no vertical drinking and there would be 24 hour CCTV and security patrols. The outside seating effectively sealed off the road to drivers who caused a nuisance to residents.  They had carried out noise testing. The food element discouraged fast drinking and he had run cafes and public houses which offered food.

The master of Charterhouse Square, speaking in support of the application stated that a circular had been circulated incorrectly stating that the café would operate until 11pm which had caused residents concern.  She considered that the applicant was a good operator and had a good relationship with the community.  Noise concerns related to the night club activity.  She had received no complaints and had received support from Florin Court residents. The applicant stated that there would be regular litter rounds.

 

In response to questions the applicant stated that there had been four temporary events in the past six months.  Live music, a two or three piece jazz band, was expected to play once or twice a week over the nicer part of the year, less in the winter.  Recorded music would be background. The temporary event notices mirrored the proposed arrangements and had been held over 21 days.  They had received no negative feedback from residents and only positive. He considered that residents would be pleased to see more  ...  view the full minutes text for item 9.