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No. Item


Introductions and procedure


Councillor Angela Picknell welcomed everyone to the meeting and officers and members introduced themselves.  The procedure for the conduct of the meeting was outlined.


Apologies for absence


Apologies for absence were received from Councillors Nick Wayne, Anjna Khurana and Dave Poyser.


Declarations of substitute members


Councillor Angela Picknell substituted for Councillor Nick Wayne for the meeting, Councillor Marian Spall substituted for Councillor Anjna Khurana and Councillor Phil Graham substituted for Councillor Dave Poyser for Item B1. Councillor Ben Mackmurdie substituted for Councillor Anjna Khurana and Councillor Flora Williamson substituted for Councillor Dave Poyser for Item B4.


Declarations of interest

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There were no declarations of interest.


Order of Business


The order of business would be as the agenda. It was noted that Items B2 and B3 had been withdrawn from the agenda.


Minutes of Previous Meeting pdf icon PDF 66 KB



That the minutes of the meeting held on 6 July 2021 be confirmed as an accurate record of proceedings and the Chair be authorised to sign them.


The Peel Institute, 3 Corners Centre, Northampton Road, EC1R 0HU - New premises transfer pdf icon PDF 12 MB


The licensing officer reported that the application was for the sale of alcohol and recorded music from midday until 9.30pm and up until 11pm for no more than two events a month.  The applicant had invited the residents to a meeting to discuss the application and one resident had attended. An email had been sent with the change of hours and with conditions proposed.  All 15 residents maintained their objection. To clarify, the licensing officer confirmed that an email had been sent with the amended hours and with conditions proposed. 


Two residents spoke in objection to the application.  The first resident stated that this was an application for a members entertainment club with an alcohol licence in the guise of a cookery school.  He considered that alcohol and the playing of music was incompatible with studying. He had found no qualified teacher or chef associated with the premises and there were no certificates issued. He stated that the website photos indicated that there was a high proportion of students would be Muslim and who were forbidden alcohol.  If this was a cookery school the application should not be granted. The premises was close to a block of flats and thirty customers consuming alcohol up until 9.30 or 10pm each evening would be noisy and on event days twice a month until 11 or midnight would be very noisy. The premises was not purpose built to retain noise and music would be audible. A condition regarding ambient background levels of music would not be enforceable. He considered that students could pay more for the lessons rather than the alcohol and they did not need the 24 events each year. In the last financial year the business received a net profit of £100,000 and it could carry out charitable activities without an alcohol licence. A second resident stated that he worked in a building where the office already had noise from the playground which could be distracting.  A noise survey had been carried out which stated that, as this area was so quiet, noise rarely exceeded 50 decibels and noise from traffic would be higher at 65 decibels. Recorded music in an evening would be intrusive and a condition to keep doors and windows closed at all times would be impossible to maintain. Bass music would be a problem. The resident was less concerned with the sale of alcohol. The purpose of the charity was a good one and he had an increasing degree of confidence in the applicant but he was concerned about the noise levels particularly as this was such a quiet area and low levels of noise could be disturbing.


In response to questions, it was noted that one of the residents present at the meeting attended the resident meeting. The resident who attended was encouraged that the venue would be well run but was seeking assurance about the background noise. He did experience playground noise but was concerned about the duration of the noise.


The applicant stated that  ...  view the full minutes text for item 148.


Fancy Delivery, 21 Parkfield Street, N1 0PS - New premises licence pdf icon PDF 3 MB


The Sub-Committee noted that this item had been withdrawn from the agenda.


Viva La Pizza, 367 Holloway Road, London, N7 0RN - Transfer of premises licence pdf icon PDF 2 MB


The Sub-Committee noted that this item had been withdrawn from the agenda.


Paradiso Desi Restaurant, 230 Hornsey Road, N7 7LL - New premises licence pdf icon PDF 8 MB


The licensing officer reported that a resident had sent in an email which was received at short notice and was unable to be referenced this evening.


The licensing authority stated that the applicant had accepted conditions with the police regarding CCTV and no vertical drinking. She considered that the rear garden should be closed at 9pm. Regulated entertainment had not been applied for. Planning issues had been resolved but it was considered that the premises should only operate until 11pm in line with planning consent.  The applicant would then need to apply for planning consent for additional hours on Friday and Saturday. The licence had been previously applied for and refused so the Sub-Committee must be satisfied regarding the standards of management and that the premises would uphold the licensing objectives and not cause a nuisance to residents. In response to a question it was noted that planning permission regarding the frontage had now been resolved but the hours applied for were beyond the planning consent hours.


Three local objectors spoke against the application. It was stated that the rear doors were not sound proofed and customers entering in and out, next to Thane Works, would cause a noise nuisance as it had in the past. Barbecues and drinking in the street had been a previous issue. A second resident stated that the last application had been refused due to the lack of experience of the applicant and she did not consider that further experience would have been obtained during lockdown. The father of the applicant was managing two other premises in the area which were rowdy and the female manager would find it difficult to manage male establishments. This was a very narrow premises and would not be family friendly as there would be nowhere to park. There was already a premises at the rear that did not stop at 9pm in the garden, although it was granted until this time, and the resident was concerned that this would happen again. The noise bounced off the walls and could be heard clearly. A further resident stated that the noise could not be controlled already and this would be one more premises which would make it worse. Residents had been threatened by patrons. It would be difficult for women to control this behaviour. Noise from other premises funnelled along the rear. The Chair reminded residents that they would need to talk about the issues regarding this application and not about the behaviour of patrons from other premises.


The applicant’s representative stated that late night refreshment was requested for Friday and Saturday only. There was no regulated entertainment applied for. The applicant had proposed the majority of conditions and two others had been accepted from the police. An application had been made to the planning authority for an extension of hours and the Sub-Committee were asked to note that licensing and planning were separate regimes. This was an application for a restaurant. The police requested that there be no vertical drinking  ...  view the full minutes text for item 151.