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No. Item


Introductions and procedure


Councillor Phil Graham welcomed everyone to the meeting and introduced officers and members.  The procedure for the conduct of the meeting was outlined.


Apologies for absence




Declarations of substitute members


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Order of Business


The order of business would be as the agenda.


Maggie and Rose, 7-9 Esther Anne Place, N1 1UL - New premises licence pdf icon PDF 3 MB


The licensing officer stated that the hours of application had been amended as follows:- The sale of alcohol from Monday to Sunday, 12 noon until 8pm and opening hours to be 8am to 8pm. The ground floor would not be licensed for alcohol and a revised layout plan for the first floor had been circulated and proposed condition 9 had been revised to reflect this. Planning implications had been raised by the interested parties.


Two local resident objectors spoke against the application.  One resident stated that there was no objection to the nursery but it would be inappropriate for a nursery to serve alcohol.  He was pleased that the hours had now been reduced in line with the planning consent. He did not consider that the application was compatible to nursery use only (D1) regarding the planning consent and considered that the application be deferred until the planning situation was rectified.  A second resident agreed with this objection and added that the application should be refused for the reasons of public safety and the protection of children from harm and also that the premises was in the cumulative impact area.


The applicant’s representative stated that this was not a bar or a restaurant and would look like a nursery from the outside. There would be no functions in the premises.  Alcohol would be limited to the first floor which contained a kitchen area, a small cinema room and a soft play area, which was indicated by a blue line on the tabled plan.  Hours were limited in line with the planning permission.  Play and education was the primary purpose of the facility.  There were no licensable activities on the ground floor. The licensing hours were in line with licensing policy 6 for bars, which this was not. Management standards were high as required in licensing policy 8 and risk assessments would be carried out in line with licensing policy 27. The cumulative impact policy related to the night time economy and bars and restaurants and he considered that this application would fall under the exceptions to the policy in paragraph 47 as they were not alcohol led and the hours were within framework hours and in accordance with planning permission with the primary use of educating children. There had been no representations from the responsible authorities and conditions had been agreed with the police. They had run successful nursery premises in Kensington and Chelsea and in Chiswick for a number of years. The sale of alcohol would be ancillary to the main use of the premises as a nursery and was a small part of their revenue stream.


In response to questions it was noted that there were six designated classrooms with sleeping areas.  Children were club members with a registered adult. The nursery was fully compliant with staff ratios as recommended by Ofsted.  There were three managers on duty with a healthy ratio of staff and there were no issues over the last decade at their other premises.  Gin  ...  view the full minutes text for item 120.


Aksu Food Centre, 691-693 Holloway Road, N19 - New premises licence pdf icon PDF 2 MB


The licensing officer reported that a new layout plan had been received. There were currently two licences but the premises were to be amalgamated. The unit at 691 had a 24 hour licence whilst the unit at 693 had shorter licensing hours. Conditions had been agreed with the police apart from condition 4 as detailed on page 99 of the agenda.  The applicant had submitted alternative wording which had been circulated to members.


The licensing authority referred to licensing policy 14, paragraphs 106 and 107 which stated that applicants should work with the licensing authority and the police and that the licensing authority may consider controls on the sale of super strength beers or ciders. She stated that the formula for calculating a minimum price used in Scotland (referred to as ‘the Scottish formula’) and that had been proposed by the applicant could be difficult for staff to work out and considered that, if the licence was granted, the condition should be for the sale of beers and ciders at 6.5% abv.  She also raised concerns regarding the larger floor space, the training of staff and how records would be kept and concerns regarding the number of staff employed, particularly after 11pm.


The police stated that agreement had been reached with conditions, except regarding condition 4.  The alternative condition was complex and confusing and conditions needed to be clear for the licensee, the police and licensing officers.  He considered that it would not solve the problem regarding the availability of high strength alcohol and would not prevent the cheap and easy availability of ciders. The area was a particularly challenging one and he would ask that the Sub-Committee accept the police condition.


In response to questions the police stated that the area was very challenging in relation to street drinking, anti-social behaviour and vagrancy. There had been no reported issues regarding the venue. In high risk areas they would normally want to apply a 5.5% alcohol condition, however, following engagement with the applicant would accept 6.5% in this case.


The officer from the public health team raised concerns regarding the increased footage would be a bigger draw to those looking to buy alcohol, particularly late at night.  High strength alcohol was often the drink of choice for vulnerable drinkers. This area had a higher rate of alcohol specific admissions that the rest of Islington.


The applicant stated that he had circulated his submissions in advance of the meeting to assist the process.  He stated that two premises would be joined into one to enable a wider variety of produce.  The premises would have the same hours but would have greater controls and restrictions.  He highlighted licensing policies 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 14. Regarding the cumulative impact policy,  he said that two licences would be replaced with one licence, the area for which alcohol was currently displayed was reduced and marked on the plan and all conditions applied promoted the licensing objectives and licensing policy.  With reference  ...  view the full minutes text for item 121.