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Introductions and procedure


Councillor Phil Graham welcomed everyone to the meeting and introduced officers and members. The licensing officer introduced himself, the applicant and the interested parties.  The procedure for the conduct of the meeting was outlined.


Apologies for absence




Declarations of substitute members


There were no declarations of substitute members.


Declarations of interest

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There were no declarations of interest.


Order of Business


The order of business would be as the agenda.


Minutes of Previous Meeting pdf icon PDF 111 KB

Additional documents:



That the minutes of the meetings held on the 15 September 2020 and 22 September 2020 be confirmed as an accurate record of proceedings and the Chair be authorised to sign them.


Java House, 236 Hornsey Road, N7 - New premises licence pdf icon PDF 6 MB


The licensing officer reported that further information from the applicant and an email from the police setting out the latest position had been circulated. These would be interleaved with the agenda papers.


The police officer stated that one condition was still under discussion. The applicant was asking that 15 patrons may be served alcohol without a table meal and the police were not happy to agree this condition. The police had initially asked that the number of 3 be agreed but this had not been accepted by the applicant and remained outstanding. He considered it appropriate for the Sub-Committee to consider.


The noise officer agreed with the police regarding this outstanding condition and stated that after 9pm, with the full capacity of the premises, about half of the patrons could drink without a meal and it would move towards a bar rather than a restaurant. Also he had not been able to agree ambient noise conditions and if background music could not be agreed by the applicant, the noise team would need to suggest further noise limiting conditions. He had concerns that if background music could not be agreed it would allow the premises to become a bar in the future.


In response to questions, the noise officer stated if music was background only there should be no noise disturbance but as the applicant had not agreed a background music condition he could only assume that music would be set at a louder volume.


A local resident stated that he objected on the basis of the prevention of public nuisance. Noise from patrons would increase to the detriment of residents. There was already a public house opposite which had a negative impact on the area. Concerns were raised regarding male patrons standing around outside, smoking, spitting and littering. He considered that the applicant was not a fit and proper person who did not seem willing to address these issues.  The premises played loud music and neighbours could already hear thumping through uninsulated premises. The door opened frequently allowing noise escape. Machinery created noise and vibration which was discernible in neighbours premises.  There was a large plate glass window with no sound proofing and anti-social behaviour had been reported on a number of occasions. There were 15 licensed premises nearby and if this licence was granted it would negatively impact on the area. The applicant’s premises already produced excess noise late at night, litter placed outside collection hours, loitering and harassment of passers-by. There would be excessive licensing hours. There was a large extension at the rear with no planning consent. Groups of patrons were intimidating and police had been called to adjacent premises. There had been no fire risk assessment for the extension. Taxi cabs had been used during lockdown. A late night licence would increase disturbance. This would cause an unacceptable deterioration of quality of life. Regarding the building at the rear there was no building control and the garden had previously been used as a barbers.


Councillor O’Sullivan  ...  view the full minutes text for item 204.


Hermil Island Lounge, 230 Hornsey Road, N7 - New premises licence pdf icon PDF 5 MB



The Sub-Committee noted that this item had been adjourned to a future meeting at the request of the applicant.


Istanbul Meze Bar and Restaurant, 90-92 Seven Sisters Road, N7 - New premises licence pdf icon PDF 4 MB


The licensing officer reported that a statement from the applicant had been circulated. This would be interleaved with the agenda papers. The sale of alcohol hours had been reduced to 10.30pm. The hours for late night refreshment remained until midnight.


A local resident stated that the premises was in a cumulative impact area and could not see that it was any exception to the policy. The local resident objected on the grounds of public nuisance and public safety as detailed in her representation. 


The applicant stated that the hours requested were within the licensing policy framework hours in order not to have a negative cumulative impact. This was not a bar or nightclub but a restaurant. There had been no representations from the police or from the noise team. Cooking was carried out at the front of the premises and the objectors were based six minutes away from the premises. The owner had received no complaints until the application had been made. A previous application had not been submitted to the Sub-Committee and had not been refused. The licensee had been at the premises for 17 months with no issues and was a good operator.


In response to questions it was noted that the premises seated 20 people and full restaurant conditions were proposed. The grill had an extraction system and there was no outside area. Alcohol was only served with a meal. 


In summary, the residents stated that they were situated straight behind the premises so were close to their rear wall. There had been a large turnover of this premises over the past 8 years and they had concern that the licence was attached to the premises. The noise issue had not been addressed and another premises in a cumulative impact area did not make any sense when there were already many problems with premises.


The applicant stated that there were four premises in close proximity and the residents would not be able to distinguish food smells emanating from one premises to another. It was unfair to blame this licensee. They did not use the garden area and the residents lived six minutes away. The application had been submitted in August and a number of TENs had been used with no complaints.



1)     That the application for a new premises licence, in respect of Istanbul Meze Bar and Restaurant, 90-92 Seven Sisters Road, N7 6AE, be granted to allow:-


a)     The sale of alcohol, on supplies only, from Monday to Sunday from 11.30 am until 10.30pm.

b)     The provision of late night refreshment on Monday to Sunday from 11pm until midnight.


2)     That conditions detailed on page 149-151 of the agenda shall be applied to the licence.



This meeting was held under regulations made under the Coronavirus Act 2020 and it was facilitated by Zoom.


The Sub-Committee listened to all the evidence and submissions and read all the material. The Sub-Committee reached the decision having given consideration to the Licensing Act 2003, as amended,  ...  view the full minutes text for item 206.


Brick Restaurant, 88 Upper Street, N1 - New premises licence pdf icon PDF 3 MB


The Sub-Committee noted that this item had been withdrawn from the agenda as agreement had been reached with all parties.