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No. Item




The Chair introduced Members and officers to the meeting


Election of Chair


The Principal Scrutiny Officer opened the meeting and stated that it would be necessary to elect a Chair for the remainder of the meeting


After being nominated and duly seconded it was -



That Councillor Osh Gantly be elected Chair for the remainder of the meeting


Apologies for Absence


Councillors Woodbyrne, Khurana, Revah and Hyde


Declaration of Substitute Members




Declarations of Interest

If you have a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest* in an item of business:

§  if it is not yet on the council’s register, you must declare both the existence and details of it at the start of the meeting or when it becomes apparent;

§  you may choose to declare a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest that is already in the register in the interests of openness and transparency. 

In both the above cases, you must leave the room without participating in discussion of the item.

If you have a personal interest in an item of business and you intend to speak or vote on the item you must declare both the existence and details of it at the start of the meeting or when it becomes apparent but you may participate in the discussion and vote on the item.


*(a)Employment, etc - Any employment, office, trade, profession or vocation carried on for profit or gain.

 (b)Sponsorship - Any payment or other financial benefit in respect of your expenses in carrying out

  duties as a member, or of your election; including from a trade union.

 (c)Contracts - Any current contract for goods, services or works, between you or your partner (or a body

 in which one of you has a beneficial interest) and the council.

 (d)Land - Any beneficial interest in land which is within the council’s area.

 (e)Licences- Any licence to occupy land in the council’s area for a month or longer.

 (f)Corporate tenancies - Any tenancy between the council and a body in which you or your partner have

  a beneficial interest.

 (g)Securities - Any beneficial interest in securities of a body which has a place of business or land in the council’s area, if the total nominal value of the securities exceeds £25,000 or one hundredth of the total issued share capital of that body or of any one class of its issued share capital. 


This applies to all members present at the meeting.



Councillor Higson declared a non-pecuniary interest in that she was an Elected Public Governor at Royal Free NHS Trust and an employee of Guys and St.Thomas’s hospital NHSFT


Councillor Gantly also declared a non-pecuniary interest as an employee of NHS Digital


Order of business


The Chair stated that the order of business would be as per the agenda


Confirmation of minutes of the previous meeting pdf icon PDF 74 KB



That the minutes of the meeting of the Committee held on 9 October 2018 be confirmed as a correct record of the proceedings and the Chair be authorised to sign them


A Member stated that in relation to page 2 of the minutes that the Mayor of London had asked for a review of suicide rates in 4 Boroughs and that Islington was one of these


Deputations - if any




Public Questions

For members of the public to ask questions relating to any subject on the meeting agenda under Procedure Rule 70.5. Alternatively, the Chair may opt to accept questions from the public during the discussion on each agenda item.


The Chair stated that any public questions would be taken when discussion took place on each individual agenda item


Notification of any items of urgency by the Chair




Response to the Proposal to Transform Mental Health Services in Camden and Islington pdf icon PDF 1 MB


Consideration was given to the report of the Camden and Islington Clinical Commissioning Group and Camden and Islington NHS Foundation Trust. The response to the consultation document, and the additional information requested at the last meeting of the Committee was presented by Tony Hoolaghan, Chief Operating Officer Haringey and Islington CCG’s, and by Dr.Vincent Kirchner, Medical Director at Camden and Islington Mental Health Trust. In addition, Angela Boon, Head of Engagement, Camden and Islington NSH Trust, Dr.Rathni Ratnavel, GP Mental Health Lead, Islington CCG, Malcolm McFrederick, St.Pancras Transormation Director, Camden and Islington Trust and Richard Lewin, Director of Integrated Commissioning, L.B.Camden were also present


A copy of a letter dated 11 October from Jill Britton from Islington CCG was also laid round


Tony Hoolaghan stated that there had been a full public consultation on the proposals and the results of the consultation were being presented to the Committee

He added that the comments of the Joint Committee on the consultation process would be welcomed.


The proposals for change had emanated from Camden and Islington NHS Foundation Trust, and the CCG had worked very closely with them


The proposals were to provide a modern purpose built in-patient facility at the Whittington Hospital site, and by developing 2 Community hubs, which would provide a mix of services with a third hub on the existing St. Pancras site


The consultation process had been assisted by the Consultation Institute, which is a not for profit organisation, and they had confirmed that the consultation that had taken place had been good practice.


It was noted that the consultation was carried out from 6 July 2018 to 12 October 2018, which was a fairly lengthy consultation time period, and there was provision made for print versions, braille, easy read versions, online, hard copies etc. The consultation document was also widely distributed, including to those on the Camden and Islington NHS Trust database


There had been also been engagement meetings with voluntary organisations, including hard to reach groups, Camden Healthwatch had been engaged and there had also been 42 engagement meetings held


Vincent Kirchner outlined the results of the consultation process, particularly highlighting the consultation results in relation to the moving of mental health beds from the St.Pancras site to the site by the Whittington Hospital, travel concerns, the Community hubs model and the locations of the hubs


It was stated that it was recognised that there is still work to do, particularly around the Greenland site location proposal


Members were informed that the Trust and CCG would continue to monitor and review the provision of mental health beds and to develop and co-produce the mix of services provided at the hubs


A Member expressed concern that there had been no consultation on the St. Pancras site and that there had not been a sufficient response, in her view, to the issues that had arisen following the previous meeting of the Joint Committee


Tony Hoolaghan stated that he would ensue a detailed response was  ...  view the full minutes text for item 25.


Any other Business


Moorfields Proposals


A Member referred to the letter sent to Members ín relation to the proposal to consider the Moorfields proposals at the Joint Committee


It was noted that there would be a full Public consultation on the proposals


Discussion took place and it was –



That the Chair of the JOHSC and the Joint Committee be requested to consider, with appropriate advice, the most suitable manner to consider this issue